EU - In or Out?

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Should the UK exit the EU?

Yes
5
21%
No
19
79%
Don't care - won't vote
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 24

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby bananahead » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:42 am

Helios wrote:
I'm not sure what you're trying to imply by talking about camps and showers.


It's simple straw man territory.

Claim that someone is a bleeding heart liberal that wants to implement a policy of mass murder without any justification for either.

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby RB » Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:14 am

bananahead wrote:
RB wrote:http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/economic/how-much-do-we-give-the-eu-and-how-much-do-we-get-back/9099.article?


You do realise that that link does not support your argument?

"But here’s the important caveat…

This graph only takes into account money we get back directly, and doesn’t include the value of other things the UK benefits from, such as the European Court of Justice, trade with the EU, and the wide range of other benefits associated with EU membership."


It does because those intangible things have been proven to not depend on membership of the EU. As Norway benefits from them more greatly than we do.

bananahead wrote:
Helios wrote:
I'm not sure what you're trying to imply by talking about camps and showers.


It's simple straw man territory.

Claim that someone is a bleeding heart liberal that wants to implement a policy of mass murder without any justification for either.

It's reductio ad absurdum, like I said it was but it's the only way to show the utter stupidity of claiming everyone is the same regardless of over 2000 years of evidence to the contrary.
A slight majority of a statistically worthless sample size agree.

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby bananahead » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:28 pm


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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby RB » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:43 pm

Exactly. My position is unchanged. Out for me.
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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby bananahead » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:46 pm

I'm just hoping that the poll on here is indicative.

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby RB » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:57 pm

This is the only one I've seen that goes this way. Several farming forums that the Mrs is on, it's 70/30 to leave even though they'll lose subsidies. Shooting forums are 75/25 to leave. My brother says the ex military forums are almost unanimous to leave.

The American/UK/EU/Far East company I work for wants out. Even the die hard Scots in our Corby plant want out.

Then there's the hundreds of thousands of Sun reading racists who want out because of immigration only.

Just think, vote out and Nigel Farage is out of a job and UKIP can disband, win, win.

Also why do you care, you're Swiss.
A slight majority of a statistically worthless sample size agree.

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby kingweed » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:18 pm

Most people I know want out too.

Wasn't quite the case with the YES NO vote

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby Ekona » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:36 pm

As has been proven of late with the Scots vote and the GE, those who shout the loudest on the internet are on the losing side.
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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby Sam » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:02 pm

Ekona wrote:As has been proven of late with the Scots vote and the GE, those who shout the loudest on the internet are on the losing side.


and then you get the tards who still think it's rigged and they were fucked over.
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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby Helios » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:34 pm

Nobody I know wants the leave the EU.
Everybody I know is confused by the vast number of arguments and statistics supporting both sides of the argument.

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby Sam » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:59 am

Found one for polito
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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby bananahead » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:17 am

For those of you that want out, what exactly do you want to achieve?

Please don't give slogans. Give real concrete examples.

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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby RB » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:19 am

Two things:
Either a call to arms for other countries to leave and then rebuild the EU without central government dictating laws that the populations of countries never get a chance to vote on.

Or else, standing alone with self determination, free from the EU undemocratically dictation laws that don't work here.
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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby Ekona » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:06 am

Which laws in particular?
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Re: EU - In or Out?

Postby Polito45 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:42 pm

The ones that tell them what they can do, and what they can't do.
Fucking Johnny foreigner telling us what to do...
It's the old - all French are cheese eating surrender monkeys and all Germans are megalomaniacal Nazis and all Italians are... Italian etc.
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