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The Lounge :: Re: Today, no not another today thread :: Reply by bananahead

no_email@example.com (bananahead) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:57:08 GMT

I have no idea

1) where Portland might be

2) who Bill is

The Lounge :: Re: Today, no not another today thread :: Reply by gamerfreak

no_email@example.com (gamerfreak) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:09:25 GMT

bananahead wrote:I have no idea

2) who Bill is

Brother of Ben? The flower pot men?

The Lounge :: Re: Today, no not another today thread :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:07:55 GMT

Uma Thurman killed him.

The Lounge :: Re: Trivia :: Reply by Blak

no_email@example.com (Blak) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:40:13 GMT

FamousDave has an avatar of win.

The Lounge :: Re: Trivia :: Reply by FamousDave

no_email@example.com (FamousDave) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:06:12 GMT

The Lounge :: Re: Trivia :: Reply by gamerfreak

no_email@example.com (gamerfreak) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:36:42 GMT

I swear there's a TV thread around here somewhere but the search is gay.

This Is England '86 is on tonight. Original cast are in it too.

The Lounge :: Re: Trivia :: Reply by Sam

no_email@example.com (Sam) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:42:05 GMT

Yup and the Euro Matches, OH AND AND AND

FIFA U17 Womens World Cup, Eurosport at like midnight

The Lounge :: Re: Trivia :: Reply by gamerfreak

no_email@example.com (gamerfreak) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:53:13 GMT

Sam wrote:FIFA U17 Womens World Cup, Eurosport at like midnight

DAMN! I only have freeview!

The Lounge :: Re: Cool Stuff! Pictures, Sounds, Videos, Links, Games! :: Reply by tinchick

no_email@example.com (tinchick) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:47:48 GMT

Daily Heil Song

The Lounge :: Re: Ekona's Plumbing Quiz! :: Reply by zark

no_email@example.com (zark) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:43:40 GMT

Shirley if the pipe's clean and round, the olive is enough? I have wrapped ptfe round an olive to stop a weepy one though

I do miss the smell of bosswhite... and also swarfega

The Lounge :: Re: Ekona's Plumbing Quiz! :: Reply by DJ

no_email@example.com (DJ) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:35:58 GMT

Wait, sealant? What? I've got this plastic part and borrowed some spanners, I was just going to screw the thing on using brute force. I've actually got my hammer on my desk now as I type this in anticipation!

The Lounge :: Re: Ekona's Plumbing Quiz! :: Reply by DJ

no_email@example.com (DJ) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:36:14 GMT

Stuff it I'm going in.

The Lounge :: Re: Ekona's Plumbing Quiz! :: Reply by Ekona

no_email@example.com (Ekona) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:56:46 GMT

This may not end well.

I changed one of these today on the toilet in the duty free staff bogs. Took me 7 minutes, and that was by no means rushing and included a test fill and flush.

The Lounge :: Re: Ekona's Plumbing Quiz! :: Reply by DJ

no_email@example.com (DJ) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:32:03 GMT

I can't do it without either taking the cistern off the wall or taking down the ceiling; I've got maybe 3 inches clearance from the top of the valve that I need to spanner off, which means not enough room to turn the spanner. I was thwarted before I began!
It looks like to take the cistern off the wall I just need to do the massive nut at the bottom that goes down to the toilet, and one of the nuts on the pipe at the bend on the side of the cistern. But I'm delving into unknown territory there.

I have stopped it leaking though, by putting an almighty amount of wrench torque on the stop tap, properly closing it. Yes, I was bricking it that I was going to break the stop tap but it appears all is well and I have no drips anywhere.
This plumbing lark is easy...!

The Lounge :: Re: THE ULTIMATE CAR THREAD :: Reply by zark

no_email@example.com (zark) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:32:11 GMT

I has a kia rio as a courtesy car.

I can't think of anything good to say about the flimsiest, slowest, least equipped, uncomfortabliest, shitbox I have ever been cursed with driving.

It's got a usb port, but winding down windows... absolute shite...

The Lounge :: Re: THE ULTIMATE CAR THREAD :: Reply by Tinlad

no_email@example.com (Tinlad) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:04:10 GMT

A long time ago in a post far far away, Tinlad wrote:I've just been doing a bit of reading of a SEAT forum, and it seems that there's a cheapskate way to plug my iPod into the factory HU.

Pants. It would appear that my Ibiza is one of the very few models that this trick doesn't work with.

Oh well. I now know my way around the head unit (buying release keys is for chumps - chopped up credit card FTW) and it gives me an excuse to save up for a posh Alpine.

The Lounge :: Re: THE ULTIMATE CAR THREAD :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:31:46 GMT

Is there a good way of getting a scratch out of a side window? Some cunt has scratched a cross in my side window. I've seen on those Police Stop type programmes, chavs doing it to weaken the window before a smash and grab.

I was thinking jewellers rouge and a Dremel polishing disc. Or should I call auto windscreens.

The Lounge :: Re: THE ULTIMATE CAR THREAD :: Reply by Ekona

no_email@example.com (Ekona) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:55:04 GMT

I've got a load of small scratches in my pax window caused by the bloke who tried to get the tiny dent in the door out last year, and tbh I just left it as I think it'll be more ballache than it's worth to sort it. If I was going to get it done I think I'd just replace the whole glass, probably from a breakers if one was local enough I could view before paying for it.

The Lounge :: Re: THE ULTIMATE CAR THREAD :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:02:42 GMT

Oh yes baby, 10 minutes with Turtle Wax Clear Vue glass polish and a Dremel with a 10mm polishing wheel; no more scratch. Me 1 - 0 Chavs.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:24:22 GMT

Him.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by bananahead

no_email@example.com (bananahead) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:55:40 GMT

RB wrote:Him.

Indeed

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by Jezreel

no_email@example.com (Jezreel) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:09:58 GMT

For now. Do you still consider someone who has had gender reassignment to be their previous gender?
If so you're collapsing your own argument, because then as it's a genitalia fixation or something you have then no matter what their brain says, it's only what's in their pants that counts.
Or is it literally whatever "bits" you were born with?

Where do you stand on hermaphrodites? (Not on their head )

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:06:34 GMT

If you paint stripes on a horse, it's not a zebra.
If you cut the cock off a man and make a fake minge, it's not a woman.
A man who thinks they are a woman is a man with mental problems, they are not a woman in a man's body.
Hermaphrodites are hermaphrodites even if they have surgery to appear one sex.

You are what you are, if you think you're something else, you're mental.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by Jezreel

no_email@example.com (Jezreel) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:19:01 GMT

What about in the animal world, such as with chickens where the gender has changed by itself, no surgery, I know it's not human, but where does that balance in?

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:37:16 GMT

I've never heard of chickens changing gender but I have heard of it in frogs and in that case where the genetic make up of a creature allows spontanious gender change for a reason that evolution has deemed useful then the animal is whatever gender it currently is. Also, in frogs at least, the organism is capable of reproduction before and after the change. That is not the case for humans who have the technology and lack of moral fortidude to endulge the whims of the mentally unstable.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by vaughany

no_email@example.com (vaughany) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:32:40 GMT

/jurassic park

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by Helios

no_email@example.com (Helios) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:41:49 GMT

I have the urge to download the soundtrack for that now.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by vaughany

no_email@example.com (vaughany) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:24:13 GMT

I've actually been listening to the soundtrack all week funnily enough.

Ever since seeing it in at the cinema.

Such a great score. John Williams really is a truely GREAT film composer. The scene where they're flying in on the helicopter. Magic. Proper movie magic. Love that film.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by Helios

no_email@example.com (Helios) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:26:31 GMT

You saw it in the cinema??
You're in London right?
Is it still on?
Which cinema?

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by vaughany

no_email@example.com (vaughany) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:30:20 GMT

Nah it was just one showing sadly. The Prince Charles cinema [LINK], just off leicester square. It was a double feature with Jaws after it. Pretty cheap too if you are a member. They do alot of special nights and geeky film stuff.

The original Godzilla followed by King Kong on the big screen was great. And Alien followed by Predator. Great little cinema.

They tend to show most of the doubles like once or twice a year so keep an eye on the schedule, Jurassic Park'll probably pop back up at some point.

Just a bit annoyed that I missed Metropolis at midnight movies at the curzon soho last week. Never seen metropolis and that would have been a great way to see it for the first time. Live band etc.

EDIT: ACtually I checked the website, Jurassic Park is playing on the 30th of October and the 3rd of November.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by Helios

no_email@example.com (Helios) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:38:31 GMT

Ah, the Prince Charles.
Been there.
It's dirt cheap.
Definitely gonna check their schedule more often.
Thanks.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:10:42 GMT

I got the frog thing fron QI actually

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by DJ

no_email@example.com (DJ) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:30:40 GMT

RB wrote:Him.

Can't go along with that one I'm afraid.
I understand what you're saying with the painting of stripes on a horse doesn't make it a zebra.
But if the horse wants to be a zebra and is doing all it can to be one and wants to be accepted as one, to still call it a horse is pretty disrespectful.
If I changed my name to Mr Fantastic, would you still call me Adam if I hated it and had gone so far as to change my name?

I'm not disagreeing with what you said cos you're right, but you have to take into account what the person wants to be and what they believe to be.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:44:40 GMT

But it's the fluffy, politically correct nature of "I support your choice" that I cannot abide and will not subscribe to. I don't support his choice. I think it's a sad state of affairs when the medical profession are basically saying that as long as a person is not dangerously mental then their delusion should be made real. And at the cost of the tax payer too. It may well be disrespectful but it's something that I cannot respect. Wanting something and believing something doesn't make it right.

Can you honestly see any doctor in the world cutting off someone's arms because they believed they shouldn't have arms and really wanted them gone? I just don't get how this has been allowed to become almost normal.

Besides which, the last documentary I watched on the subject stated that a tiny percentage of changers were actually happy after the change. If you're miserable as a man then you'll be miserable as a man with no cock too.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by bananahead

no_email@example.com (bananahead) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:36:09 GMT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

Although I repect peoples right to choose what they want to believe and to fuck around with thier body all they like it doesn't alter their basic sexuality. If god gives you a willy it's because god wants you to have a willy.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by DJ

no_email@example.com (DJ) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:52:15 GMT

I don't think it's politically correct or even supporting it; it's just one of those things. She was a she up until she was "outed", because she called herself a girls name, looked like a girl, sounded like a girl, and wanted to be seen as a girl.
Whilst wanting something and believing in something doesn't make it right, wanting and believing does make it real to the person with those thoughts.
To deny that person the freedom to have an identity when it does no harm to anyone or anything is wrong.
No it's not normal, it's bloody weird if you ask me, but then we used to burn people at the stake for being a witch if they had a period. It's tolerance of something that is real to a lot of people and does exist, whether we understand it or think it's weird or whatever.

As for Nana's link, that's genetics. Genetically she'll always be male. But to the outside world and everyone she interacts with and how she looks to herself she's a woman. That's more important than genetics.

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by RB

no_email@example.com (RB) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:06:51 GMT

DJ wrote:To deny that person the freedom to have an identity when it does no harm to anyone or anything is wrong.

But if they are doing it because of a mental deficiency/delusion/scars of abuse then they are harming themselves. Not pandering to the delusion or allowing the surgery is the same as putting mental people in a padded room to prevent them hurting themselves (well not the same but similar).

The Lounge :: Re: xnorthernlassx :: Reply by vaughany

no_email@example.com (vaughany) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:11:55 GMT

+1 for She.

If someone wants to be called she, I'd tend towards saying she.

I might believe differently myself but that doesn't mean I'd oppose someone on the issue of their own identity. Your genetic make up is what it is and there's no changing it, but some people don't think it's quite so cut-and-dry and it doesn't hurt me to tolerate that. I don't agree but I'm not gonna go throwing it in people's faces.

Absolutely fine to talk about your viewpoint and debate it but saying "He" when you know she wants to be called "She" is more like name-calling.

I think this sort of tough-love, "it's for their own good" attitude can do more harm than good. Especially in situations like this.

My two cents.

Tech Talk :: Re: The Android thread. :: Reply by RobD

no_email@example.com (RobD) — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:13:54 GMT

The Sega emulator Gensoid is wicked, love Streets of Rage!!!

Games Talk :: Re: ROCK BAND (1 + 2 + 3 + Beatles + Lego + Green Day) :: Reply by Ekona

no_email@example.com (Ekona) — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:34:58 GMT

I am so angry right now I might just pop a testicle

They're not releasing the MIDI adaptor until the 26th of November, a whole month after the game comes out! Since I refuse to start the game and then change controls half way through, I'm going to have to wait a whole month extra until I can play it.

Fuck you Mad Catz